Last week, the “transcript” of President Trump’s July 25th call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed that Trump tried to pressure Zelensky into investigating a debunked conspiracy theory: that Russia’s well-documented interference in the 2016 election actually originated in Ukraine. On Sunday, it was revealed that Trump already knew the theory had been disproven prior to asking Zelensky to look into it.

Or, at least, he was told it had been disproven. Repeatedly.

So said Tom Bossert, Trump’s former homeland security adviser, during an appearance on ABC’s This Week. “Not only is it a conspiracy theory, it has been completely debunked,” Bossert said after confirming that when he was in the White House he explained this to the president.

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