The final episode of was packed full of twists, from Rita’s true identity to the future of The Commission, but the biggest shock was saved for last. Fans of the show — and especially of Justin H. Min’s character, Ben Hargreeves — will have plenty to ponder during the long wait for .

Lucky for you, we asked Umbrella Academy showrunner Steve Blackman all about that Season 2 finale and what it means for Ben.

Warning: Major spoilers for The Umbrella Academy Season 2 below. ☔️

After the Umbrella Academy finally avoids the apocalypse in 1963 and manages to return to their own present, they discover that things have changed. A lot. Their adopted father, Reginald, is alive, and he’s got a new superhero team

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